its super good
So super that rather than play it, you shill it out to people on another game's forums?
POE is easily deeper, but I enjoy both games
When you can trade with other people, everything is better.
PoE done some stuff right I will give it that but better in 'general' is subjective.
I was interested in that game since the first versions,gave it a try like 4 times already 'last time with Betrayal'.
Played it for a while but it always comes down to the very same things that I just can't stand and quit.
- Combat just feels off,can't really point out what exactly but its just meh to me.
- I'm one of those ppl who care about transmog/character look and unless I buy paid transmogs my char will look like complete trash.
-Game in general feels like a 'clusterfxxk' of everything.
-Speed running maps are not much different than running Rifts,even with the modifiers.
What I do like is that they have an option for SSF mode since thats how I prefer to play in D3 too.
Not exactly a player friendly option/balance tho but at least its there.
Playing Betrayal was good for one thing in my case.
While playing I was thinking why I'm doing this when I could just go back to Grim Dawn which I personally find a more enjoyable ARPG + its offline too and now I'm having a blast with GD AoM again.:P 'till S16 that is'
I'm not saying PoE is bad,it has some good ideas but to me its just lacking something that keeps me playing D3/Titan Quest/GD.
I was interested in that game since the first versions,gave it a try like 4 times already 'last time with Betrayal'.
Played it for a while but it always comes down to the very same things that I just can't stand and quit.
- Combat just feels off,can't really point out what exactly but its just meh to me.
- I'm one of those ppl who care about transmog/character look and unless I buy paid transmogs my char will look like complete trash.
-Game in general feels like a 'clusterfxxk' of everything.
-Speed running maps are not much different than running Rifts,even with the modifiers.
What I do like is that they have an option for SSF mode since thats how I prefer to play in D3 too.
Not exactly a player friendly option/balance tho but at least its there.
Playing Betrayal was good for one thing in my case.
While playing I was thinking why I'm doing this when I could just go back to Grim Dawn which I personally find a more enjoyable ARPG + its offline too and now I'm having a blast with GD AoM again.:P 'till S16 that is'
I'm not saying PoE is bad,it has some good ideas but to me its just lacking something that keeps me playing D3/Titan Quest/GD.
Poe is hard to learn and boring at begin because its very complex. But when you understand 30-40% game, its super good.
- 3 Ascendancy classes * 6 characters = 18 classes , and a lot of difference build per class
example: you can play Witcher with Physical build, Tanker build, .. at late game.
- New content is released per 6 month.
Beginner Tips: Poe isn't beginner friendly. Loots is difference with D3. in Poe, rare items drop like normal items in D3. You will feel overwhelm, and confuse. And game is really good when you install Loot Filter for filter 60% trash items:
https://github.com/NeverSinkDev/NeverSink-Filter
p/s: PoE ecosystem is large, because they have public API. For example a top player's profile: https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/PoEDan79/characters
Not sure if it is a better game but certainly it is a better diablo game relative to d3.
Not sure if it is a better game but certainly it is a better diablo game relative to d3.
It will never be a better diablo game because diablo is not even subject in this game. ^^
Since online cash sites are rampant (ggg not policing them) poe is P2W. Sure you can use in game currency on approved site but, even that's sold for cash on multiple sites. The self find mode is only non P2W. Game wasn't bad until I found out end game sucks without good gear.
And i think anyone is ARPG fan, should learn PoE. I am sure that you will not regret.
I learned enough at school, I am still learning at work since working in a state-of-the art industry.. .. I do not want to learn at games, but playing them and have fun.
I tried POE and this is why I leave - it is not intuitive! it is their problem, not mine.. and for a beginner this problem is very frustrating and makes you leave..
Also, POE have lots and lots of issues from technical to endgame. just read negative reviews on steam and you will understand.
Hmm.. I don't agree that Path Of Exile is better game. More complicated yes, it has more content, sure, but its not a better game. Depends what you are looking for in a game. Quantity over quality, if you are looking for more content Path might seem better, but if you are looking for some quality game Diablo is number one on the market.
Sure Diablos lack of more content is his biggest problem, but in overall Diablo is so damn good game.
I would rather play Grim Dawn then Path Of Exile, I think its much better game and very underated.
And please once and for all stop spamming this forum about Path Of Exile. Its not fair.
Sure Diablos lack of more content is his biggest problem, but in overall Diablo is so damn good game.
I would rather play Grim Dawn then Path Of Exile, I think its much better game and very underated.
And please once and for all stop spamming this forum about Path Of Exile. Its not fair.
Singularity - i don't think it's a matter of 'fair'. i think it's just not in the right forum.
the way I see it, people tend to hold double standards when it comes to certain games. Take D3 for example:
If the game is not like PoE - 'This game sucks. I wish it was more like PoE'
if the game is like PoE - 'Grats on the PoE Clone! why couldn't you make something original?'
you can't please everybody. I actually agree with what you said: for what it offers, D3 is a very good game. Not as complex but is still an enjoyable experience if you're looking for something a bit more streamlined.
the way I see it, people tend to hold double standards when it comes to certain games. Take D3 for example:
If the game is not like PoE - 'This game sucks. I wish it was more like PoE'
if the game is like PoE - 'Grats on the PoE Clone! why couldn't you make something original?'
you can't please everybody. I actually agree with what you said: for what it offers, D3 is a very good game. Not as complex but is still an enjoyable experience if you're looking for something a bit more streamlined.
Man ,there is d3 game forum, so take your shyt and get a fack up !
Thank You TaintedFate. Not going to quote your long post but you sum up my feelings exactly. Especially the last part: POE is just plain fugly, I can't stand the game engine.
If people like POE good for them but i have no idea why they want to post here.
I like d3 but don't feel the need to go to other forums to post about it that would be just strange.
AS for POE i have tried it 3 or 4 times just can't get into it
I like d3 but don't feel the need to go to other forums to post about it that would be just strange.
AS for POE i have tried it 3 or 4 times just can't get into it
Since online cash sites are rampant (ggg not policing them) poe is P2W. Sure you can use in game currency on approved site but, even that's sold for cash on multiple sites. The self find mode is only non P2W. Game wasn't bad until I found out end game sucks without good gear.
POE is not P2W, you already know it, and honestly, paying real money for currency is for retarded people. What's your user name in POE?
PoE is a single player (at endgame), more hardcore game than D3 is.
Which is why I don't play it. I like multiplayer and don't have the time to dump into it. If the Leagues were a few months longer I'd probably do it because the Leagues are generally fun, but the reset pace is too quick - and likely has to be, so they can get renewed interest and MTX money each League.
Which is why I don't play it. I like multiplayer and don't have the time to dump into it. If the Leagues were a few months longer I'd probably do it because the Leagues are generally fun, but the reset pace is too quick - and likely has to be, so they can get renewed interest and MTX money each League.
Like ive said before, I thin kPOE is better than D3. But i played it massively after a month, i quit. D3 is a crap game, but i played this game since start.
I play Poe. I try and do a maurder barb two hander and die. I'm only level 58 and lose experience when I die. It is too hard and complex. You cant go back and easily change ur build without a lot of farming orbs of regrets.
I like diablo 2 more than diablo 3 and poe as far as game play.. not graphics .. I wish I could have a good graphic diablo 2 that .. any way no big deal I'm gonna get supa good graphics on my 4 by 9 inch sweet l pad and play diablo 4 Immortal which I guess.
Poe us too hard dont listen too poster.. best easy and fun game these days is guild wars 2.. i should reinstall it someday..
I like diablo 2 more than diablo 3 and poe as far as game play.. not graphics .. I wish I could have a good graphic diablo 2 that .. any way no big deal I'm gonna get supa good graphics on my 4 by 9 inch sweet l pad and play diablo 4 Immortal which I guess.
Poe us too hard dont listen too poster.. best easy and fun game these days is guild wars 2.. i should reinstall it someday..
Who exactly are you trying to convince with this post? You're certainly not going to convince me to move over to PoE. If I wanted to play that, I'd be over there, playing it, and not over here on the D3 forum.
Sometimes I think you all make these posts to convince yourselves you're making the right call on which game to play. Play what you prefer. But don't sit there and try to get other people to jump ship to make yourself feel like your choice is the correct one.
Sometimes I think you all make these posts to convince yourselves you're making the right call on which game to play. Play what you prefer. But don't sit there and try to get other people to jump ship to make yourself feel like your choice is the correct one.
POE = POS
I've tried PoE several times, and I nearly fall asleep at the wheel each and every time. The environments and textures look decent enough, but there's nothing engaging from a personal standpoint. I'd be hard-pressed to even call it the same thing as D3 or D2. They're all different beasts of a similar genre and I prefer to stick to the series that I grew up with.
I get a lot of random !@#$ from some of my peers for not making the move over to PoE with them and I couldn't give less of a crap. Any game that I literally fall asleep while running through the first three acts is obviously not engaging enough. (Regardless of whether or not it's tough.)
To the OP, if you like it better, good for you. Go brag about it on the PoE forums and sing the praises with other like-minded individuals.
I get a lot of random !@#$ from some of my peers for not making the move over to PoE with them and I couldn't give less of a crap. Any game that I literally fall asleep while running through the first three acts is obviously not engaging enough. (Regardless of whether or not it's tough.)
To the OP, if you like it better, good for you. Go brag about it on the PoE forums and sing the praises with other like-minded individuals.
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The Bestiary league offers more than just the ability to capture monsters for your nefarious crafting purposes. It also introduces a host of changes to Path of Exile's endgame, in addition to three new skill gems and a load of new items. To get the full scoop, read our preview.
Path of Exile's Bestiary league, which lets you capture and sacrifice monsters for powerful loot, opens today. Like all of Path of Exile's temporary leagues, this means you'll have to start a brand new character if you're looking to catch 'em all. Marvel vs capcom infinite mods. But where to start? Hardcore players will have already planned out their builds weeks in advance. For us more casual types (and especially if you're new), picking the right build to get a good start is daunting. Fortunately, I've rounded up some personal and community favorite build guides that can help you survive your first weeks in Wraeclast.
Called League Starters, these builds are designed to get you up and killing with minimal effort. They're built around readily available skill gems and usually don't require too many specific unique items—which is fantastic since most uniques are very expensive at the start of the league. In short, they'll get you through most of Path of Exile's medium-difficulty content so that you can stockpile currency to spend on more expensive endgame-viable characters.
Even if you don't care about that extra hard endgame content, though, any of these builds will let you experience all but the most challenging of Path of Exile's maps. And they're fun as hell. For this list, I'm also trying to give you a wide variety of play styles instead of prioritizing what's technically best of the best—which is pretty hotly debated anyway.
Max Block Scorching Ray Scion
This build holds a special place in my heart because it was the build guide I followed that finally let me appreciate why Path of Exile is the indisputable king of ARPGs. The core concept around this build is using Scorching Ray to sweep over packs of enemies, letting its damage over time ability melt them away while your (hopefully) maxed out blocking stat mitigates any incoming damage.
What I love about this build is how it comes together over time. As you level, you'll start to grab nodes on the passive skill tree that increase your fire damage. Each one provides such a raw boost to your damage that it's intoxicating when you unlock one. By level 50, you'll feel like Hephaestus, God of Fire, and the entire world is yours to burn.
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There are some downsides: because Scorcing Ray is a channelled attack, positioning is critical and some boss fights will require constantly moving around to avoid damage. That can get really annoying sometimes.
Engineering Eternity's build guide is the one to read, especially if you're new, since he breaks down how to level the character (something a lot of build guides skip).
Quad Frostbolt Totem Hierophant
Youtuber LiftingNerdBro's take on the Frostbolt Totem Hierophant is an excellent build if you're brand new to Path of Exile. Because it relies largely on spells that scale with your level, you don't need to worry about min-maxing your gear—in fact you can play fairly deep into endgame without any of the suggest unique items.
Totem builds aren't for everyone, as they're a very passive offensive style that relies on placing totems that cast spells for you while you focus on moving around and dodging any deadly attacks. That said, if you love the idea of being the final boss in a bullet hell arcade shooter, this build rocks because your totems cover the field in bolts of frost that rip through enemies easily. The constant application of wide area-of-effect damage means you can hastily rip through maps, so new players can focus more on the basics of movement and positioning. As I mentioned, it's also a great build in that you can easily play it using only the rare items you find on your own. While Path of Exile's unique trade economy is a blast to mess around with, this build gives you an opportunity to explore it at your own pace.
There is a drawback, however. As LiftingNerdBro explains, this is not the build you want to use if you intend to farm bosses. If you're new or a casual player, don't sweat this, but the lack of decent single-target damage will draw out boss encounters and make them a bit of a slog. During the leveling process, this won't matter, but this build is better off for general map clearing and farming instead.
LiftingNerdBro also has a handy written guide you can reference over on the forums—and yes, he includes some great leveling tips if you're new.
Thicc Jugg Tank
Engineering Eternity's Thicc Jugg Tank has quickly become a community favorite thanks to its impenetrable layer of defense that lets players face-tank just about any boss. If you've dabbled in Path of Exile and hate how many bosses can one-shot you if you're not careful, this is a great build to play. It's designed for running the Eternal Labyrinth—an endgame dungeon with all sorts of nasty traps and randomized properties—but can fare well enough in normal areas too.
Thicc Jugg uses the melee skill Cleave to deal damage, but what really makes it special is the insane number of defensive layers that make you nigh unstoppable. You can literally just stand in front of some of Path of Exile's toughest bosses and eat the full force of their attacks without taking damage. This is great for beginners, as the added survivability will definitely help in later areas when the difficult starts to scale up significantly. Another great perk is that this build is sustainable without relying on flasks, so beginners have less things to worry about in the heat of combat.
There is a downside in that all of that defense leaves the Thicc Jugg a little light on offense. Clearing areas and killing bosses will take longer, which isn't great if you're looking to rip through Path of Exile's ten acts on your way to endgame. If slow and steady wins the race is your mantra, consider this build.
Here's Engineering Eternity's written guide. Be sure to take time and understand how all of the defensive layers work together.
Lich Queen Skeleton Summoner
If there's one thing I enjoy in Diablo more than Path of Exile, it's the Necromancer and his army of undead. While Path of Exile does have summoning, it's never felt as satisfying, but Ghazzy's build comes pretty damn close. If the idea of having a horde of spell-slingling skeleton mages obliterating packs of enemies for you sounds appealing, then look no further.
This Skeleton Summoner is a complex build that relies on a cheap unique called The Baron in addition to two unique gems called Dead Reckoning to summon up to nine skeletal mages that will then slaughter enemies for you. That's an intimidating obstacle for new players, but this build is also versatile enough that you can get by with melee skeletons and even zombies while you level and scrounge up the required currency. If you're unfamiliar with summoning builds, this one might take a bit of researching before you understand how all of its skills and passive abilities work together. Fortunately, Ghazzy has a great guide that breaks down how it all works.
Defensively, you don't have to worry too much thanks to your skeletons acting as a large and very distracting meat shield for most enemies. You'll also be picking up a bunch of increase HP nodes from the passive tree, giving you a large HP pool to soak any damage that sneaks through your wall of skeleton mages.
Here's Ghazzy's written guide. It's not the most comprehensible for new players, but once you get started I guarantee it will begin to make more sense.
Sunder Gladiator
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Sunder has one of the most popular skills for league starter builds. While it's not overly flashy, it is dependable and scales well all the way to endgame content. Better yet, it's a dirt cheap build that just about anyone can master. That said, the Path of Exile forums are full of dozens of variations you can follow, and all of them are pretty good. I chose WorstSmitesEU's guide because it's thorough and takes time to explain the basics and has a solid foundation that you can always adjust to fit other Duelist-style Sunder builds. For example, with the 3.2 patch, a lot of players are saying that Champion is now the ascendancy class of choice instead of Gladiator—but, like everything in Path of Exile, it's up for debate.
Sunder is about as basic a skill as you can get in Path of Exile. With your main hand you strike the ground, causing a wave of broken earth to pulse out and strike nearby enemies who, in turn, create their own mini-shockwaves that deal added damage. The gist here is to get close and Sunder away until everything is dead. Yup, it's that easy. Defensively, the build relies on skills like Fortify to mitigate incoming damage—again, this is Path of Exile at its most basic.
The only real downside to Sunder Gladiator builds is that their efficiency in endgame maps starts to drop off significantly unless you invest a lot of money into powerful uniques. This is a league starter build in the purest sense, as most players will quickly abandon this character once they've farmed enough currency to afford a more specialized build. Still, if you're starting out or really struggling to pick a build, you can never go wrong with Sunder.
Here's a link to WorstSmiesEU's written guide. Or check out the video below for an alternative option.